A post to a Reddit spirituality forum was in my email inbox this Sunday morning. Below are few of many more comments. I have no recollection of how I acquired the Puzzleheaded Drop 81 moniker, but the puzzle part seems to fit.
Posted byu/saucyT_
In a weird spot with my religious beliefs and not sure what to do.
So I have been christian my whole life and grew up with both sides of my family being christian. I never really questioned anything growing up because honestly nothing ever really crossed my mind. For the past year, I’ve been getting more into spirituality and I find everything about it to be extremely comforting and makes more sense than some of the things I’ve heard from certain christian folks. Now at 19, I’ve been doing more research on the Bible and churches and such and things are really starting to not add up or make sense about christianity.
I really do not want to think this way but I can’t help but feel my intuition. I do certainly believe Jesus Christ was a real person and a lot of events that happened but the whole concept of other things in christianity contradict each other. I tried talking to my dad and he told me that the devil is messing with my mind trying to have me move away from christianity. Not sure what to do right now so some advice would greatly be appreciated. Thank you.
tom63376
Maybe you still are a "Christian", if by 'Christian' you mean a follower of Christ. You could study, research and put into practice the inner, mystical teachings of Jesus and most likely not alienate your family, if that is important to you. After all you are simply following Christ. As Christians, they would most likely respect that you are simply following the directive of Jesus that he repeated in different ways at least 10 times: "If you love me, follow my commandments (my teachings)."I attended a Methodist church with my wife for years because she felt she got something out of it. Rather than focusing on the contradictions, etc, I focused on what Jesus said. This was very well received by the other traditional members of the congregation. In fact they asked me to teach adult Bible study where I introduced the members to the inner, mystical teachings of Christ. For example: "What do you think Jesus was really telling us when he said, "The kingdom of heaven is within you?" and. "first remove the beam from your own eye."? Or, what are your thoughts when you read: "You are saved by faith alone" and what Jesus said, "But the one who hears my words and does not put them into practice is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation."?
These traditional Christians were extremely interested and involved in exploring these kinds of questions at least in part I believe, because I never tried to prove what they believed was wrong. But there did reach a point where I had a strong sense, that I had given them what I could and it was time to leave.
Puzzleheaded_Drop_81
Well said. I think I recall somewhere in the Gospels, Jesus told his disciples to go forth and preach what he had taught them, and where they were not welcome, to leave. There was a time in my journey that I went into quite a few churches and participated in Sunday school discussions.tom63376
Maybe you still are a "Christian", if by 'Christian' you mean a follower of Christ. You could study, research and put into practice the inner, mystical teachings of Jesus and most likely not alienate your family, if that is important to you. After all you are simply following Christ. As Christians, they would most likely respect that you are simply following the directive of Jesus that he repeated in different ways at least 10 times: "If you love me, follow my commandments (my teachings)."
I attended a Methodist church with my wife for years because she felt she got something out of it. Rather than focusing on the contradictions, etc, I focused on what Jesus said. This was very well received by the other traditional members of the congregation. In fact they asked me to teach adult Bible study where I introduced the members to the inner, mystical teachings of Christ. For example: "What do you think Jesus was really telling us when he said, "The kingdom of heaven is within you?" and. "first remove the beam from your own eye."? Or, what are your thoughts when you read: "You are saved by faith alone" and what Jesus said, "But the one who hears my words and does not put them into practice is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation."?
These traditional Christians were extremely interested and involved in exploring these kinds of questions at least in part I believe, because I never tried to prove what they believed was wrong. But there did reach a point where I had a strong sense, that I had given them what I could and it was time to leave.
Long_Repair_8779
The Saint/Guru Neem Karoli Baba once told Krishna Das and some others to meditate like Jesus. They kinda laughed and said ‘what how does Jesus meditate?’. Apparently at that moment it was like all of time stood still, there was complete silence in the air, even the birds flying above seemed to stop mid-air. And as a small tear emerged on the face of Baba, he replied “He just loved”
BaristaSamurai
No matter your religious beliefs, a pure longing for God will open doors that no amount of theology or doctrine could ever hope to do.
I've come to similar conclusions. And have decided without divine help and intervention, I wouldn't make it very far in my spiritual aspirations because of the rampant confusion in spiritual, and especially, religious circles.
manofsands
When I first started to question Christianity, and felt fear and guilt for doing so, I found comfort in the thought that "God made me this way, with a questioning mind... the Truth will remain true. If I search, either the Bible will prove itself, or the truth will start to be revealed"
PatrickTheExplorer
I know how you feel. I've felt the same way while I was growing up. I was raised catholic but as I aged and matured it didn't quite "feel right" and so I explored other religions and spiritualities. I've found it's best if you let your instincts guide you. Don't put too much thought/logic into it... go with your gut, your instincts.
Silver_n_Black
Matthew 7:9-10 says: Or which one of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent?
I then ask, what father would throw his children into the eternal fire?
saucyT_
This was one of the first things I started questioning, but yet I feel fear for questioning God.
Silver_n_Black
Unfortunately that fear is how the church controls people. Before Jesus came around, Judaism taught people that rituals of sacrifice needed to be undertaken to find your way back to God. And those rituals required the services of the religious leaders. But Jesus tried to teach people that these rituals were unnecessary and that forgiveness, non-judgment, and unconditional love were the only ways to come closer to God. However, the religious leaders couldn't use this message to control people and elevate themselves above everyone else, so they had to create a new message centered on sin and unrighteousness. Now with everyone being sinners, they again needed the religious leaders to find their way back to God.
The only way you can find the truth is to look within and trust your intuition.
austensjf
Don’t be afraid! You’re not questioning God! You are only questioning this religion and the book that has some strange contradictions etc. Jesus and God, I truly believe, encourage questioning. They want us to take a hard look at this thing called religion, and someday find a better way. Rise above it, and become one peaceful people on earth.
saucyT
currently on shrooms right now for the 2nd time and wowww it’s like the more i learn the more questions i have. i can’t explain the stuff im seeing right now
and i also have to go to church tomorrow so it’s going to be interestingaustensjf
Good luck tomorrow! There’s no rush to figure this all out. Take your time and learn lots of stuff! You don’t have to tell anyone if you don’t want to. It’s your path!!
Puzzleheaded_Drop_81
You have to go to church?
saucyT_
yea it’s my grandma’s birthday and they all want me to go
Puzzleheaded_Drop_81
Can you go visit your grandmother instead? What does her birthday have to do with going to church? Do she and your family know you are using mushrooms?
Unless you are under the protective wing or an adept shaman, taking psychedelics can open you to just about anything that's "out there", and there are things "out there" that you probably don't want anything to do with, which can latch onto you, unaware to you, and be with you indefinitely, and you may or may not ever know it, or its influence on you.
saucyT_
i’m sober right now and saw some unexplainable things,including a little fairy girl thing? i was laying in the bathroom and she was standing in my chest making sure i was okay, ik it sounds weird. anyways my family has no idea about the shrooms, i did them at a friend’s place and stayed the night. and the reason my family had to go to church for her birthday is cause she’s really religious and it’s one of the things that makes her happy when we’re all together. currently just arrived at church.
Puzzleheaded_Drop_81
I think it pleases God for us to be kind and attentive to our older relatives, and to all our relatives, unless they are misbehaving and we need to speak to them about that :-). I never used mushrooms, but have known people who swore by them, and I told them, why not just hear directly from the Spirit instead? I know that is not something just anyone can do. I also know psychedelics can open you up to stuff that might look wonderful, because that's what it wants you see, but it has its own agenda for you, which might not be best for you or your soul. Also, if you pretend to be a good Christian, church goer, but really are allegiant to mushrooms, for example, is that a bit of a divide in yourself? It is authentic?
whydoesthishapp3n
only insecure people and narcissists hate to be questioned. The goddess is neither.
whydoesthishapp3n
agreed! that’s the part that never made sense. like damn if you mess up right as the rapture happens you just go to hell?? like even if you were doing good up until then?! and burn for eternity?? it seems like something that was added in because humans didn’t have any incentive. like we’re children who need to be threatened into doing it right thing. also how is it free will if the alternative is burning in hell? seems like an abusive relationship. like hey sweetie you can do whatever you want but if you don’t live exactly how i ask you to i’m going to beat you with a lead pipe. lol. eternal fire is a lot worse. i know in my heart god wouldn’t do that.
Jesus said, "Whoever blasphemes against the Father will be forgiven, and whoever blasphemes against the son will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit will not be forgiven, either on earth or in heaven." " This is from the gospel of Thomas.
The more you dive in to spirituality you can see everything comes from what we call the soul. Even this reality thus to call blasphemes against the holy spirit is causing you to fall in the trap of reincarnation. Once you can get past this and realize you're equal to the son and farther that they have no bounds to you. The only reason the holy spirit has any hold on us is because it makes up our body and we arn't our bodies.
But another quote "Jesus said, "If a blind person leads a blind person, both of them will fall into a hole." " Pretty much have blind faith in Jesus or anyone else being true or follow the path Jesus took and understand his logic. It in all honesty his views can be hindu in nature or buddhist. He just molded what he learned in a way for the people he knows could digest it and understand it.
whydoesthishapp3n
you quote the perils of blind faith and then ask OP to have blind faith. I’m confused on whether that’s what you meant to type.
Puzzleheaded_Drop_81
He said to them, "It's like a mustard seed, the smallest of all seeds, but when it falls on prepared soil, it produces a large plant and becomes a shelter for birds of the sky." "
If a mustard seed is involved everything kinda clicks for me. The secret of gods kingdome is we are living in it right now. Our "soul" in simple terms is equal to god but force is not possible. Force is a unique aspect of this reality due to rules this reality has since we aren't the body not the matter that makes all this stuff up.
i’m sober right now and saw some unexplainable things,including a little fairy girl thing? i was laying in the bathroom and she was standing in my chest making sure i was okay, ik it sounds weird. anyways my family has no idea about the shrooms, i did them at a friend’s place and stayed the night. and the reason my family had to go to church for her birthday is cause she’s really religious and it’s one of the things that makes her happy when we’re all together. currently just arrived at church.
Puzzleheaded_Drop_81
I think it pleases God for us to be kind and attentive to our older relatives, and to all our relatives, unless they are misbehaving and we need to speak to them about that :-). I never used mushrooms, but have known people who swore by them, and I told them, why not just hear directly from the Spirit instead? I know that is not something just anyone can do. I also know psychedelics can open you up to stuff that might look wonderful, because that's what it wants you see, but it has its own agenda for you, which might not be best for you or your soul. Also, if you pretend to be a good Christian, church goer, but really are allegiant to mushrooms, for example, is that a bit of a divide in yourself? It is authentic?
whydoesthishapp3n
only insecure people and narcissists hate to be questioned. The goddess is neither.
whydoesthishapp3n
agreed! that’s the part that never made sense. like damn if you mess up right as the rapture happens you just go to hell?? like even if you were doing good up until then?! and burn for eternity?? it seems like something that was added in because humans didn’t have any incentive. like we’re children who need to be threatened into doing it right thing. also how is it free will if the alternative is burning in hell? seems like an abusive relationship. like hey sweetie you can do whatever you want but if you don’t live exactly how i ask you to i’m going to beat you with a lead pipe. lol. eternal fire is a lot worse. i know in my heart god wouldn’t do that.
Jesus said, "Whoever blasphemes against the Father will be forgiven, and whoever blasphemes against the son will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit will not be forgiven, either on earth or in heaven." " This is from the gospel of Thomas.
The more you dive in to spirituality you can see everything comes from what we call the soul. Even this reality thus to call blasphemes against the holy spirit is causing you to fall in the trap of reincarnation. Once you can get past this and realize you're equal to the son and farther that they have no bounds to you. The only reason the holy spirit has any hold on us is because it makes up our body and we arn't our bodies.
But another quote "Jesus said, "If a blind person leads a blind person, both of them will fall into a hole." " Pretty much have blind faith in Jesus or anyone else being true or follow the path Jesus took and understand his logic. It in all honesty his views can be hindu in nature or buddhist. He just molded what he learned in a way for the people he knows could digest it and understand it.
whydoesthishapp3n
you quote the perils of blind faith and then ask OP to have blind faith. I’m confused on whether that’s what you meant to type.
Puzzleheaded_Drop_81
The Holy Spirit is called Shikenah in Judaism, gender feminine. made male by Christendom. Jesus berated the disciples for not getting what he told them. He also told them he taught them the mysteries of the Kingdom of God in secret. He planted seeds in them. And after Pentecost, the Holy Spirit took them over and grew them into something God could use. Jesus and John the Baptist both said Jesus baptized in fire and in spirit. Jesus said the way to God is difficult and few entered the gate, and many are called but few are chosen, and the work is great and the harvesters are few. Jesus told his disciples, if they abided in him and his teachings, they would come to know the truth and the truth would set them free. Not a church would set them free , but him and his teachings and the truth. Did Jesus ever build one corporeal church?
36Gig
Keyword set them free. Sounds like to an extent the end goal is not the kingdom of god. " The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us what Heaven's kingdom is like."He said to them, "It's like a mustard seed, the smallest of all seeds, but when it falls on prepared soil, it produces a large plant and becomes a shelter for birds of the sky." "
If a mustard seed is involved everything kinda clicks for me. The secret of gods kingdome is we are living in it right now. Our "soul" in simple terms is equal to god but force is not possible. Force is a unique aspect of this reality due to rules this reality has since we aren't the body not the matter that makes all this stuff up.
I'm kinda sad this didn't click for me untill now
Puzzleheaded_Drop_81
What happened to me was I felt, and knew, I was captured by God, and was being turned upside down and inside out and every which a way but loose. It started in early 1987, in my 45th year. I explained how that began in a different comment under this post. It's still in play, this my 80th year. I was opened up in new ways many times. Still happening.36Gig
Your can't be captured. That's unless you allow your self to get captured.(this is in reference to the soul) Most people believe they are the body thus the soul mirrors the body. Once awakened no one can force you to do anything from the soul level.
Puzzleheaded_Drop_81
Heh, if you lived in my skin, or in the skin of a good friend of mine, about half my age, you very definitely know you can be captured by God :-). Then all that's left is to accept it, and the discipline that accompanies it, or fight it. Fighting it is not recommended, but it appears it is tolerated for a while, but there comes a time when fighting it is no longer tolerated and it's either surrender to it, or be cut loose and deal with the consequences of making that choice, which, after all I've experienced, is not something I care to find out about. I think my younger friend would tell you much the same. We are doing a free, no advertising podcast, where mostly I talk, about matters of heaven and earth. We have received death threats. Two episodes were taken down after being flagged, but the channel provider declined to tell us what exactly was in the episodes that violated the provider's guidelines. Here's a link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpfKctWylzKlGXtz1CssY7w36Gig
I still disagree with capture but I do agree with accepting it. I'll probably use the term respect more so, but even with respect you don't need to like it.
Puzzleheaded_Drop_81
See my reply somewhere to RandChick in this discussion, about how my being captured began with a desperate prayer I made to God to help me. Consider also a poem, which fell out of me after I had seriously blown a major spiritual assignment.
I still disagree with capture but I do agree with accepting it. I'll probably use the term respect more so, but even with respect you don't need to like it.
Puzzleheaded_Drop_81
See my reply somewhere to RandChick in this discussion, about how my being captured began with a desperate prayer I made to God to help me. Consider also a poem, which fell out of me after I had seriously blown a major spiritual assignment.
SHANGHAIED (2004)
A calling to serve carries its own wisdom,which legitimates both the calling and the serving so that the two are one.
Only the one called to serve can know this wisdom,a nd for some who are called the knowing comes easily, while for others the knowing is a fiery baptism.
Each calling is different,and while some callings can be declined, others cannot, and those whose calling is without repentance know they are in it for the duration of the calling, and while others may try to persuade them out of it,t he calling for ones such as these always prevails.
Thus is it advised to all called for keeps that they view their calling as a blessing even when it seems at times to be a curse, and that they try to reconcile the loss of their captain status, and allow the Spirit of God to man the helm of their ship, and be glad and willing crew members thereon, knowing that all sailing ships of souls need a crew as well as a captain to maintain and navigate the ship through seas of many tones, depths and flavors.
So consider each league sailed as part of the overall journey, going to where the captain deigns to go by using whatever winds and sea currents available to navigate the ship to the experiences this ship and crew need to have in order to fulfill their calling and its wisdom revealed by the journey of many leagues, many known only to the ship and its crew, all of whom come to know, some sooner than others, that once conscripted, there is no safe jumping ship.
Only the one called to serve can know this wisdom,a nd for some who are called the knowing comes easily, while for others the knowing is a fiery baptism.
Each calling is different,and while some callings can be declined, others cannot, and those whose calling is without repentance know they are in it for the duration of the calling, and while others may try to persuade them out of it,t he calling for ones such as these always prevails.
Thus is it advised to all called for keeps that they view their calling as a blessing even when it seems at times to be a curse, and that they try to reconcile the loss of their captain status, and allow the Spirit of God to man the helm of their ship, and be glad and willing crew members thereon, knowing that all sailing ships of souls need a crew as well as a captain to maintain and navigate the ship through seas of many tones, depths and flavors.
So consider each league sailed as part of the overall journey, going to where the captain deigns to go by using whatever winds and sea currents available to navigate the ship to the experiences this ship and crew need to have in order to fulfill their calling and its wisdom revealed by the journey of many leagues, many known only to the ship and its crew, all of whom come to know, some sooner than others, that once conscripted, there is no safe jumping ship.
Also, look up Rumi's poem, "The Chickpea.
Grand_chump
Read books, open your mind. There is so much you dont know, and you dont know that you dont know it. Seek truth and it will find you.
Autobiography of a yogi Life and teachings of the masters of the far east
Puzzleheaded_Drop_81
Excellent book, Yoganada’s autobiography. However,I think this seeker need look no further than how Jesus and the Holy Spirit taught, grilled, roasted and refined the disciples in the New Testament. That is this seeker’s root spirituality, which will not go away if he adopts a new path, although reading Yogananda’s book might help this seeker appreciate church is something very different than a building or religion. It’s a state of being.
allthaticansay
The next best thing to knowing the ultimate truth is seeking it.This book is just the spark that will get people talking about the real truth.
Excerpt from The Present, a book about life and spirituality, available free online.
charmzmander
That book is a really good read! Here is the version that includes the religious perspective: The Present (With Religion) I’m currently reading this and I really like their interpretation of the Bible.
RandChick
If you believe in God, pray to God and ask for enlightenment and guidance.Focus on having direct experiences with God and that might influence where you go from here.(I am a Christian and have had direct and unmistakable mystical experiences with God and Christ).
Puzzleheaded_Drop_81
Good advice.
Read books, open your mind. There is so much you dont know, and you dont know that you dont know it. Seek truth and it will find you.
Autobiography of a yogi Life and teachings of the masters of the far east
Puzzleheaded_Drop_81
Excellent book, Yoganada’s autobiography. However,I think this seeker need look no further than how Jesus and the Holy Spirit taught, grilled, roasted and refined the disciples in the New Testament. That is this seeker’s root spirituality, which will not go away if he adopts a new path, although reading Yogananda’s book might help this seeker appreciate church is something very different than a building or religion. It’s a state of being.
allthaticansay
The next best thing to knowing the ultimate truth is seeking it.This book is just the spark that will get people talking about the real truth.
Excerpt from The Present, a book about life and spirituality, available free online.
charmzmander
That book is a really good read! Here is the version that includes the religious perspective: The Present (With Religion) I’m currently reading this and I really like their interpretation of the Bible.
RandChick
If you believe in God, pray to God and ask for enlightenment and guidance.Focus on having direct experiences with God and that might influence where you go from here.(I am a Christian and have had direct and unmistakable mystical experiences with God and Christ).
Puzzleheaded_Drop_81
Good advice.
I was a Christian, it didn't work for me, or more accurately, I did not work for it, and I plunged into the New Age and went through it pretty fast and learned some things, but I realized it wasn't fixing me. In early 1987, I concluded I was at the end of my rope, out of bright ideas, had failed in every way a man could fail. In that state, I prayed one day, "Dear God, I do not want to die like this, failed. Please help me." I paused, added, "I offer my life to human service." About ten days later, I woke in the wee hours maybe around 2 am, and saw two ethics beings hovering in the darkness above me. Shaped like shifts, white, tinge of blue. I heard plainly, but not with my ears, "This will push you to your limits, but you asked for it and we are going to give it to you." I recalled the prayer I'd made. I saw a white flash and my body was jolted by something electrical. That happened two more times. The beings dissolved. I was shaking all over, sweating. That's how it began. Slow at first, but inexorable. Many phases. Lots of courses in being stood before mirrors. Eventually, I came to understand the two beings were Jesus and Archangel Michael. Later, Melchizedek joined them. The training got much rougher, Even later, Kali joined them, and the training ramped up again. I'm in my 80th year. Still being trained. I was pushed many times beyond what I thought were my limits. Still being pushed. Thousands and thousands of direct experiences with not of this world entities. I took no LSD, no peyote, no ayahuasca, no nothing.I was taken back into Christendom and the Bible, and shown new ways of looking at Bible passages, and was shown Bible passages I had not considered, especially the Letter to the Hebrews. I was taken through all of that and came to know God is far bigger than any religion on this planet. I came to know Evil, Lucifer, demons, are very real. I came to know ETs and less physical extraterrestrial beings are very real. I came to think I'm always in church. Throughout it all I felt like I was not from this planet, in the sense there were very few people I could relate to about such matters. Currently, there are two such people, whom I know well.One of them, about half my age, and I have being doing a podcast, where mostly I speak and tell stories. We have received death threats. Podcast episodes get flagged regularly. Two episodes were taken down by the provider, which declined to tell us what part of the episodes violated the provider's guidelines. Here's al link to the podcast.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpfKctWylzKlGXtz1CssY7w
wma4891
I'm a spiritual atheist, but grew up in Christianity. Just follow your intuition, otherwise you'll never be satisfied. We're constantly learning, growing, and changing. We don't have to be static in our beliefs to follow the status quo. You do you and be honest with yourself.
Puzzleheaded_Drop_81
I sometimes have told atheists, if there were no God, then the question of whether God exists would never come up :-). I have had God's existence, and angels, and the Devil, and demons, and ETs, and more etheric beings proven to me so many times, that I know they exist, and I also know I cannot prove they exist, nor can anyone prove they don't exist. I was taught what is important is how people live and behave. That's the sum of it. Be they Christian, Jew, Muslim, Bushist, Taoist, new Age, Atheist, or whatever.
wakingup1245
Always follow your intuition it is never wrong, but don’t get your intuition mistaken with your ego because your ego is always wrong
Puzzleheaded_Drop_81
Almost always, and sometimes, or more often, it is very easy to mistake the ego for intuition. In the fall of 1995, a familiar voice told me in my sleep, "It is very easy to mistake Lucifer for the Holy Spirit." I woke up generally terrified :-). I never forgot hearing that, though.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpfKctWylzKlGXtz1CssY7w
wma4891
I'm a spiritual atheist, but grew up in Christianity. Just follow your intuition, otherwise you'll never be satisfied. We're constantly learning, growing, and changing. We don't have to be static in our beliefs to follow the status quo. You do you and be honest with yourself.
Puzzleheaded_Drop_81
I sometimes have told atheists, if there were no God, then the question of whether God exists would never come up :-). I have had God's existence, and angels, and the Devil, and demons, and ETs, and more etheric beings proven to me so many times, that I know they exist, and I also know I cannot prove they exist, nor can anyone prove they don't exist. I was taught what is important is how people live and behave. That's the sum of it. Be they Christian, Jew, Muslim, Bushist, Taoist, new Age, Atheist, or whatever.
wakingup1245
Always follow your intuition it is never wrong, but don’t get your intuition mistaken with your ego because your ego is always wrong
Puzzleheaded_Drop_81
Almost always, and sometimes, or more often, it is very easy to mistake the ego for intuition. In the fall of 1995, a familiar voice told me in my sleep, "It is very easy to mistake Lucifer for the Holy Spirit." I woke up generally terrified :-). I never forgot hearing that, though.
wakingup1245
You’re right, what do you suggest to do to separate the two apart?
Puzzleheaded_Drop_81
In my case, I'm ridden hard by angels known in the Bible. They let me know when I'm messing up. Sometimes they wait a while to let me know, hoping, I suppose, I will figure it out on my own. Sometimes they let me wallow in something I messed up, hoping, I wonder, if it will teach me not to do it again. Basically, the ego, like the Devil, which is very real, as are demons, tell us what we want to hear about ourselves, about our interests, goals, dreams, crusades, etc. Whereas, in my case, the angels tell me what they think I need to hear, even though it is the very last thing I want to hear. I have a lot of training in psycho-spiritual healing, and in being disciplined by angels, which are two very different but still related arenas. Every adult human being, as far as I have seen, has deep soul programming, and deep wounding and trauma. Most of the trauma is rooted in childhood, but it can occur later. And, it could be from a past life, karma, etc. Ditto, the programming. This wounding and programming live inside us, and speak to us in their own ways, and that influences us without out our knowing. The conscious mind is about 10 percent of our total consciousness? What's the other 90 percent doing without our knowing? What's the Devil and demons doing without out knowing? So, if you are capable of receiving input from the Spirit, say during meditation or dreams or visons, or just in "ah has", stick with that, and with asking for ongoing input to help you along your way. If you do not have such experiences, then simply try to live as good and true as you can, and try not to harm anyone else, and try to help those who are open to help, and try to be kind to Mother Earth. Do not, if possible, get caught, as in trapped, in a religious sect (some might say cult) that says it has all the answers. Only God has all the answers. Likewise, I don't belong to political parties, or to any social sect that thinks it knows the way to God or what is best for everyone. There is an old Sufi saying, which I think all religious people should ponder: "Let God kill him who himself does not know but presumes to show others the way to the door of His kingdom."wakingup1245
Thank you for this🙏🏽 this was very enlightening and will for sure stick with me through my journey
jollygaygiant_
Have you considered gnosticism. It's a spiritual path to Christianity. The easiest place to start would be YouTube and then reading the Nag Hammadi scriptures. That's where I've settled between following Christ while understanding that He comes from the Almighty God and not the god of this world. Reading the gospels from a spiritual perspective also makes it easier to come to terms with it.
Puzzleheaded_Drop_81
Gnosticism recognized spark of God in everyone, and seeks the direct experience with that I grew up calling God, and moving deeper into God, knowing that God exists. The direct experience is very different from believing, reading the Bible or other spiritual texts, be they related to Christendom or to another religion. Christians can be Gnostics. Anyone can be a Gnostic, if the Spirit makes it so.
Thank you for this🙏🏽 this was very enlightening and will for sure stick with me through my journey
jollygaygiant_
Have you considered gnosticism. It's a spiritual path to Christianity. The easiest place to start would be YouTube and then reading the Nag Hammadi scriptures. That's where I've settled between following Christ while understanding that He comes from the Almighty God and not the god of this world. Reading the gospels from a spiritual perspective also makes it easier to come to terms with it.
Puzzleheaded_Drop_81
Gnosticism recognized spark of God in everyone, and seeks the direct experience with that I grew up calling God, and moving deeper into God, knowing that God exists. The direct experience is very different from believing, reading the Bible or other spiritual texts, be they related to Christendom or to another religion. Christians can be Gnostics. Anyone can be a Gnostic, if the Spirit makes it so.
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